he didn't do anything

it didn't make a decision

Well when a leader of a country commits obvious crimes and breached his oath of office, you dont just wait until an election to remove him.
Hes now trying to make it not about him, but that its an attack on the people.

Just so you both clear you don't anger or intimidate me. You are a pair of illiterate morons who squak at my pleasure.

Fpot "can't read" my posts but nevertheless puts a lot of effort into responding to them.

We'll be sure to find some middle ground between reality and the intertwined deep state and fake news conspiracy executing their coup of the white house.

Its a trait in alot of conservatives.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167218769867?journalCode=pspc

Not the kind of thing you want in a leader of a nation.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12784934

Analyzing political conservatism as motivated social cognition integrates theories of personality (authoritarianism, dogmatism-intolerance of ambiguity), epistemic and existential needs (for closure, regulatory focus, terror management), and ideological rationalization (social dominance, system justification). A meta-analysis (88 samples, 12 countries, 22,818 cases) confirms that several psychological variables predict political conservatism: death anxiety (weighted mean r = .50); system instability (.47); dogmatism-intolerance of ambiguity (.34); openness to experience (-.32); uncertainty tolerance (-.27); needs for order, structure, and closure (.26); integrative complexity (-.20); fear of threat and loss (.18); and self-esteem (-.09). The core ideology of conservatism stresses resistance to change and justification of inequality and is motivated by needs that vary situationally and dispositionally to manage uncertainty and threat.

Fire management is a state responsibility.

Morrison came back for the retarded voters who are affected by "feels" like baby kissing and hand shaking.

He should have stayed in Hawaii.

I saw a headline that Democrats are going for a second impeachment now. Hahahaa

two or three drunk posts

some sort of perverted attempt to make the world as miserable as they are

Antifa only really exist in the Russian twitter bot disinformation sphere

it's a deep state conspiracy

Look at that juicy slow cooked conspiracy theory.

That's the unique problem that needs to be dealt with and I don't have a f*****g clue how.

That's the unique problem that needs to be dealt with and I don't have a f*****g clue how.

Yeah, its an odd problem. Psychology gives us a peek into the processes on how people get manipulated by populists, its another thing to see it happening right in front of you and even to our fellow aussies.

Yeah, its an odd problem. Psychology gives us a peek into the processes on how people get manipulated by populists, its another thing to see it happening right in front of you and even to our fellow aussies.

The Federal govt....? I cannot believe the PM is being s***bagged for sending emergency assistance. These are state management issues.

Trump's move was masterful.

Man who is incapable of being critical of the liberal party doesn't like when someone criticizes the liberal party.

More accurately: man who is paid to be critical of the liberal party is critical of the liberal party.

More accurately: man who is paid to be critical of the liberal party is critical of the liberal party.

arsonist conspiracy

M1 Pacific Motorway NSW Yesterday at 10:32 · - Did you know that from the 17th January 2020, if you chuck a lit cigarette out the window you can be fined up to $11,000 and lose 10 demerit points. If someone loses their life you could be jailed for up to 25 years for manslaughter. To report someone who has thrown a lit cigarette out the window of a vehicle, contact the NSW Rural Fire Service hotline on 1800 679 737

So how close are we to the universal adoption of climate change is real but there's nothing we can do to stop it so why bother?

And after we reduce Australia's 1% of total global emissions what next?

It also shows QLD as paying ~36c/kwh
In 2017 I was paying closer to ~21c, I'm currently paying 22.9c.

Unless some poor sap is paying ~50c to balance it out and get that average?

Oh but infi if we completely cover the northern territory in solar panels it'll be like real convincing when we beg China to reduce emissions this time.

The physics of the climate system doesn’t care about political boundaries. Does Germany not matter because it’s responsible for (slightly) less than 2%, or does it matter because it’s part of the EU, responsible for 9.4% of emissions? How about if we divide China into 56 countries of 25 million people, each with emissions half of Australia’s – would that let them off the hook?

China and India haven’t yet peaked their emissions – unsurprising given their stage of development – but both are decoupling emissions from development such that their average citizen will never have the carbon footprint the average Australian has now.

Name a single climate change policy Australia could have adopted in the last 40 years that would have impacted climate today or more particularly the bushfires?

This question continues to remain unanswered.

Share of global greenhouse emissions Put together, countries with emissions less than 2% of global emissions are larger than any other country.

Instead of going to international forums and actively fighting against reducing emissions we could be lobbying for it.

it doesn't have a sound answer, the *best* anyone has is if we adopt renewables it's more convincing for China not to use coal

PP's question is another dishonest gotcha attempt, which is why it was ignored. Resolving the problem is an international effort, and by not doing anything much about it (going by our emissions per capita) we're signalling to other countries to do the same.

In Essen, in Germany’s Ruhr Valley, I saw a technology that allows power-hungry aluminium smelters to operate well (and increase profits) in renewable-dominated grids. The technology was first developed in Gladstone and partly Australian-owned before being sold offshore.

So I guess Australia is a long way away from your negative energy price/Mars terraforming *cough* Total Recall *cough* utopia?

Can we just start with inventing a way to reliably deliver renewable baseload? South Australia thanks you in advance.

I love my solar but its no help during peak tarriff 4-8pm.

He is falling over himself to increase electricity prices and taxes like a self-flaggelating monk.

Vash

From January last year to June this year, countries outside China decreased their total coal power capacity by 8.1 gigawatts through steady retirements and an ongoing decline in the commissioning of new coal plants. But across the same period China increased its coal fleet by 42.9GW, and as a result the global coal fleet overall grew by 34.9GW.

his old thing again? I guess if you only read Chris Kenny's archived old tweets for your information on energy (before he ragequit because he hates free speech), you wouldn't know what a crock of s*** this is.

I will make my usual mistake and assume you're trying to discuss this in good faith but SA had some minor reliability issues a few years ago - mostly due to the same s*** that causes the rest of Australia's reliability issues: trees knocking over powerlines in storms. These have been almost totally eradicated and SA's power grid is now being held up, globally, as an example of how a modern nation can migrate successfully

Our ACCC graph from above says they are the most expensive power is Australia, soo.....

So you are happy for Australian energy prices and taxes to increase to subsidise renewables while China builds equivalent to Australia's present coal generating capacity every year?

I guess we just arrived at the crux of the discussion. Reducing carbon emissions in Australia may be ineffective on a global scale but it feels good. I want to feel good by making others pay more for their carbon.

[edit to remove something that was vaguely like an unintentional personal attack]

You persist in thinking that people who are now homeless because of these unprecedented bushfires just want to "feel good" by making others pay more for their carbon.

according to infi and crew we should all be trying to screw the planet as much as the next guy, just so he doesnt have to pay a little more for his resources

You persist in saying the only reason to do it is "feeling good" and ignore the many actual, real, tangible benefits that you get immediately, and the many potentially beneficial outcomes that might result if we go down this path in a serious way.

You persist in thinking that people who are now homeless because of these unprecedented bushfires just want to "feel good" by making others pay more for their carbon.

You persist in treating "carbon" like everyone should be free to dump it into the air at everyone opportunity despite the fact that it is a known pollutant. You need to admit to yourself that pollution is a negative externality and burning coal results in this pollution, so it needs to be factored into the price. (You were such a big cheerleader of Trump's China tariffs - surely you should be a big fan of more tariffs based on their carbon output, if they don't sign up to the surely inevitable global carbon trading scheme?)

none of this is true

I am perfectly fine with reducing carbon emissions as part of a globally coordinated effort - it is great to be efficient with resources and be kind to our planet

focusing on Australia's sins when they are just a minnow, is pointless hand-wringing.

also: what climate change policy could australia have enacted in the last 30 years to prevent the recent bushfires?

Have you not read Animal Farm?

have you not read sarcasm

- you think starting a programme to reduce emissions, switch to renewables, etc, will harm our economic prosperity

- the rest of us think a) doing that will (eventually) improve our economic prosperity and b) NOT doing that is what is going to harm it

how will increasing the cost of living improve economic prosperity?

i have explained multiple times on here that this is achieved by placing a levy on energy costs, in order to subsidise renewables

which in turns increases the cost of every consumer item

the levy would not be "in order to subsidise renewables" - the levy is to make sure the true cost of fossil fuels if reflected in the price.

Clean energy sources met most of the demand on Australia's biggest grid for 10 minutes on Wednesday

IIRC it was not 50% solar - half of it was solar

A fleeting 10 Min peak result (per the article) does not represent a 50% solar supply for the nation. It is an abnormal (extraordinary) result due to perfect operating conditions.

Articles like this perpetuate a narrative that solar will represent 50% of Australia's energy supply thus evidence of the proposition that more coal power plants should be allowed to run down and/or be decommissioned.

After texting about the ambassador, Hyde gave Parnas detailed updates that suggested he was watching her (Marie Yovanovitch). In one text, Hyde wrote: “She’s talked to three people. Her phone is off. Her computer is off.” He said she was under heavy security and “we have a person inside.”

Hyde at one point texted Parnas that ''they are willing to help if we/you would like a price,” and “guess you can do anything in Ukraine with money ... is what I was told.”

Griffith puts the total cost at about $5 trillion to decarbonise Australia over two decades and likens it to the level of spending undertaken during World War II.

“If it was done at the rate of spending during World War II [proportional to GDP] it could get done in under 10 years. That's the war effort required to meet a 1.5-degree target.”

At the same time, Griffith and others, including Industry Super Australia, say the task of getting to net zero is harder without nuclear being in the mix, making for an uncomfortable debate for the Greens and left of the Labor Party.

Even still, the overall cost requires a deep breath and an affinity with large numbers, even before considering the idea of putting more leverage into Australia's already indebted household sector. With 8.6 million households, the cost over a decade would be $860 billion or $86 billion a year. That’s about 4.5 per cent of GDP.

“You have to remember that these measures would also save households $1000 to $2000 each year,” he says.

Reducing carbon emissions in Australia may be ineffective on a global scale but it feels good.

Communist regimes pointed to saboteurs and foreign spies to account for the systemic failings of central planning. More recently, liberals have invoked Russian meddling and a global far-right network masterminded by Steve Bannon to explain their political defeats. Delusions of conspiracy are part of the mass psychology of progressivism, and will intensify in the coming months and years.

I always find the "it's going to take a WW2 level of spending and effort" analogy interesting, because the one nation that invested the most in WW2 ended up becoming the dominant superpower

Do you ever get bored of being forced to ignore so many things or does the dopamine rush of writing whatever dumb s*** you want regardless of the facts overcome the boredom?

yer, you aint getting it infi. no one is disagreeing that australia reducing its emissions on its own will do little in the global scheme of things. WE ALL GET THAT, NO ONE IS DISAGREEING.

Australia is extremely well placed with our climate and environment to lead the way, so if anyone can do it and reduce the costs of reducing emissions its us.

We need to show other countries what can be done and spark change that way.

The thing is though, we want to be good global citizens, all of us should be doing everything we can to do the right thing

the majority of australia dont think that climate change is real and we should be trying to be better?

I already addressed most of those points at least once in previous post

this is the reality that the rest of us are operating in.

the best use of the Australian citizen's time if they want to effect global change is to put pressure on our government to make new policy

if there is any fact in there you wish to check please do.

Only high income people access the solar handouts.

I am more concerned about the obsession with placing handicaps on the Australian economy which will achieve nothing. The policy response subsidisong the renewable industry and increasing the cost of power is my main concern.

And the self-righteous protest hysteria.

But McKinsey finds that Germany is expected to fail the majority of its own 2020 energy transition targets. The transition process has made itself more reliant on gas from Putin’s Russia. In the medium term, its withdrawal from nuclear and coal power also threaten to compromise energy provision “if these sources aren’t replaced in time”.

They set very high standards so it's a "failure".

Everyone is pushing renewables because it's cheaper than coal.

Because a solar system costs many thousands of $ people in Housing Commission, rentals and with low incomes cannot afford or arrange that investment.

So higher income people who own their own home enjoy that rebate drawn from the tax paid by lower income people.

Imagine if you told lefties that is how their environmental policy works in practice? Redistribution of tax to the rich.

Now do that without renewable subsidies.

to answer your question though, the reason they are subsidised is really the same reason the government should subsidise anything - trying to effect an important societal or market change when the market isn't doing itself, because it can't or won't

if you believe climate change is a threat, then you don't need to ask that question ever again

if you believe climate change is a threat, then you don't need to ask that question ever again

why do you not even /try/ to have a conversation? like why not read the other stuff I wrote and reply to it? I don't get what you're doing here

Real climate change action is a global agreement to price carbon and reduce emissions lead by USA, China, the EU and Japan. Australia just falls in line. Without that Extinction Rebellion and the Greens are just pissing in the breeze.

anyway. the subsidy they get is the fact that the government discounts the price massively by not requiring that companies dispose of waste products correctly.

i enjoy highlighting the ongoing hypocrisy of the tokenistic green movement.

people who think they are reducing their carbon emissions by driving an electric car.

people who think more solar panels can possibly substitute for reliable coal baseload generation.

it is the classic leftist handwringing - something needs to be done NOW

otherwise BUSHFIRES, KOALAS, HOMELESS PEOPLE. Never mind whether it's effective.

Where is the calling out of China's emissions expansion?

Should the diesel fuel rebate be scrapped altogether?

point scoring is a lot of fun, I agree there is a lot of cherry picking that can be done amongst "greens" who think we should turn off the coal stations now and doing so will not negatively impact their lives.

while the stadium burns around everyone

but simply because the emissions are moved out the locations where people live and work and breathe and elsewhere

you want renewables to look terrible?

ummm, in many of my posts above? the marketing and lobbying from every non-Chinese manufacturing group in first world countries? every environmental group? in literally every anti-capitalist raving posted in the last decade? China's emissions are terrible. they know they're terrible which is why they're building out s***tonnes of solar and nuclear. but some a******* keep selling them cheap coal

heh do I think a system that lets people get even cheaper fossil fuels should be scrapped altogether?

yes

Unless of course you want to drive 600 kms without charging the car for three hours.

they know they're terrible which is why they're building out s***tonnes of solar and nuclear. but some a******* keep selling them cheap coal

but if all everyone is doing is scoring easy points on each other and ignoring the actual problems with their own positions then we're not going to get anything useful done because noone will ever acknowledge the faults in their own positions, be they factual inaccuracies, logical fallacies, or simply inconsitency

the /only/ reason a billion dollars of "tax paid by lower income people" isn't flooding to Adani seems to be a fluke of having Labor is in power in Qld (or possibly they just used it as a smokescreen excuse when they decided it's not financially viable anyway)/

China's emissions are partly enabled by Australia's (ludicrously cheap) coal exports. we have a role to play here. (s*** we could just invent a new tariff called the Trump Green China Tariff and wait for America to follow suit from sheer ego)

lol mr man of the people. Nevermind the gov who thinks low wage growth is a feature.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/31/low-wage-growth-to-cost-average-worker-2100-over-four-years-labor-warns

We know who the guillotines are coming for.

lol mr man of the people. Nevermind the gov who thinks low wage growth is a feature.

We know who the guillotines are coming for.

1) do you think this record period of stunningly low interest rates/pseudo MMT we are living in might impact this (trivial) economic statistical achievement that Cormann desperately trotted out in response to the (hard) data showing record low growth?

2) do you think the fact that inflation being well below the inflation targets has made that real wage growth figures easier to achieve?

they could embark on a Manhattan Project (I need another metaphor) to build train network or fix their ailing infrastructure or any number of things useful to their citizens

just feels like it's going to work perfectly, until one day, it doesn't

Closing Hazelwood with out a plan to replace it was *an amazing* decision.