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Playing HD films in OSX
BillyHardball
Brisbane, Queensland
11429 posts
So I have an 11gig mkv of the Dark Knight, but VLC is really struggling to handle it. I tried this tweak but it didn't help...

Quicktime won't open it without a plugin. Any suggestions about what I should be watching it with?
07:02pm 11/12/10 Permalink
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HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
4725 posts
you could always convert it to mp4 since its already h264 encoced with http://code.google.com/p/subler/
07:12pm 11/12/10 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
30820 posts
converting media to any format is fail

surely osx being the most awesome os in the world would have something that can play mkvs?

else, install windows and use wmp
07:15pm 11/12/10 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
4786 posts
windows media player classic


oh wait
07:54pm 11/12/10 Permalink
E.T.
Queensland
3307 posts
http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/

This will work better for you Billy
08:02pm 11/12/10 Permalink
exo
Melbourne, Victoria
8836 posts
http://www.perian.org/ will give you the codec you need for Quicktime
08:16pm 11/12/10 Permalink
do0b
Brisbane, Queensland
4071 posts
There's no app for that?
09:19pm 11/12/10 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
17539 posts
if you've got a macbook pro, try switching to the high performance video chipset instead of the power saving one if you haven't already. Also laptop hard drives tend to suck speed wise, are you sure it's up to the task of streaming a file that large?

My huge PC has trouble with some really large files, HDD light is on constantly. Mind you, they're uncompressed AVI files and an 8 second video I have is 1.15gig so I can't imagine how huge a full movie would be ahha.

e: It might not be your mac, I just tried VLC vs MPC on my PC, VLC uses a lot more CPU to play the same video, double the usage if not more.

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Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
5855 posts
Boot camp and install Windows 7.
10:01pm 11/12/10 Permalink
$ack
Brisbane, Queensland
1364 posts
You got the latest version of vlc? after v1.0 or something it uses hardware acceleration.
10:04pm 11/12/10 Permalink
HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
4726 posts
Got zero problems with vlc and an 8gb mkv on 27" imac and macbook core duo's
10:29pm 11/12/10 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
9340 posts
plex
12:33am 12/12/10 Permalink
Infidel
Netherlands
3371 posts
plex
01:00am 12/12/10 Permalink
simul
Brisbane, Queensland
993 posts
Plex, mplayer2 or quicktime with Perian, VLC mkv support has always been fairly crappy.
02:22am 12/12/10 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
17542 posts
I say give this a go: http://mplayerosx.sttz.ch/
04:39am 12/12/10 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
164 posts
VLC is flawless for me after doing this:

* Go to VLC's preferences
* Click on "All" at the bottom of the window
* Navigate to "Input/Codecs" -> "Access modules" -> "MMap"
* Disable "Use file memory mapping"
* Save the settings and restart VLC.


Else use Plex.
06:14am 12/12/10 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6031 posts
I also have an 11GB 1080p MKV and my late 2009 MBP 13" handles it just fine. That's the nVidia 9400M and 2.53GHz Core 2.

What bitrate are we talking about here?
08:32am 12/12/10 Permalink
Eds
Brisbane, Queensland
9638 posts
Im getting a 2.8Ghz, 8gig ram with a 256gig SSD MBP next week, I can't wait to push something like an 11gig hd vid through it
09:59am 12/12/10 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
5859 posts
^^ You don't need particularly dazzling specs just to play 1080p MKV files. My old AMD Athlon from nearly 5 years ago could do it.
10:15am 12/12/10 Permalink
BillyHardball
Brisbane, Queensland
11430 posts
Well I copied it over to my SSD and it plays fine... so maybe it was an HDD speed issue.
Im getting a 2.8Ghz, 8gig ram with a 256gig SSD MBP next week, I can't wait to push something like an 11gig hd vid through it

I just upgraded my MBP to 8 gig ram, 240gig solid state, and replaced the optical drive for a 1TB second drive :)
10:27am 12/12/10 Permalink
BillyHardball
Brisbane, Queensland
11431 posts
OIC, it wasn't the HDD speed - it plays fine of either drive. Must have been because I didn't realise I was backing up to Time Machine and copying ~20gig of media across the network. Woops :)

But thanks, team. I'm going to try out plex.
10:30am 12/12/10 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
17543 posts
backing up to Time Machine and copying ~20gig of media across the network. Woops :)

NOOOOOOOOB
07:01pm 12/12/10 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
165 posts
OIC, it wasn't the HDD speed - it plays fine of either drive. Must have been because I didn't realise I was backing up to Time Machine and copying ~20gig of media across the network. Woops :)

But thanks, team. I'm going to try out plex.


lol. I was going to say, I can play a 14gig mkv over wireless and it's still fine, so HDD speed would be strange.
10:44pm 12/12/10 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6039 posts
Yeah even USB Time Machine slows down my machine.
11:05pm 12/12/10 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
17546 posts
time machine pretty much cripples my macbook, there's nothing much on it worth saving anyway so I disabled it.
12:19am 13/12/10 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
166 posts
I think it's just usb more than anything. With a firewire drive I hardly notice it.
12:45am 13/12/10 Permalink
simul
Brisbane, Queensland
994 posts
I just upgraded my MBP to 8 gig ram, 240gig solid state, and replaced the optical drive for a 1TB second drive :)


Lol, that thing would fly.
01:00am 13/12/10 Permalink
BillyHardball
Brisbane, Queensland
11434 posts
I think it's just usb more than anything. With a firewire drive I hardly notice it.

I was backing up from my SSD to my 2nd internal drive, and it chugged the s*** out of everything.
08:47am 13/12/10 Permalink
`ViPER`
Brisbane, Queensland
3195 posts
lol. I was going to say, I can play a 14gig mkv over wireless and it's still fine, so HDD speed would be strange.


Realy?? your not transcoding it or something before playing it over the network.

I find it very hard to believe a 14gb MKV runs fine over wireless.
08:49am 13/12/10 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
9341 posts
why? wireless-N (all modern macs have 802.11n) can do 150mbps, at 14gb and lets say 2 hours (7200 seconds) it's only 1.94MB/sec = 15mbit roughly
even a wireless G AP would do it no worries
08:57am 13/12/10 Permalink
`ViPER`
Brisbane, Queensland
3196 posts
why? wireless-N (all modern macs have 802.11n) can do 150mbps, at 14gb and lets say 2 hours (7200 seconds) it's only 1.94MB/sec = 15mbit roughly


Thats all theoretical though. Wireless is s*** and slow, even wireless N.

I cant stream 5gb MKV's over 100mb lan, but Gigabit is fine.
09:09am 13/12/10 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
167 posts
Well as a reference I get about anywhere from 6-10mb/s copying across the network (8ish 90% of the time). So like teq said it's really no worries.
09:19am 13/12/10 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
9342 posts
sounds like a local problem viper, can't say I have noticed wireless being s***
09:21am 13/12/10 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
5865 posts
Well there's something wrong with your network. Straight Blu-Ray images are a maximum of 40Mbit, which handles just fine over 100Mbit ethernet. I've streamed plenty of 4GB MKV files over 54Mbit wifi without a hitch. I've only had 100Mbit ethernet stutter when my PC is transcoding on the fly, which doesn't really compress the data very much. If it's just a straight MKV file though, it should run fine.
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