My Grandma has one foot in the grave. She's blind, deaf, diabetic, has lung cancer (smoked forever and still continues to).

Great story, you probably want to hear more. Well, in the past few years I've tried to get to know her a bit better. She's a lot more open since she became blind. She was a renowned hard-arse as a mother to my mother. Her husband, now dead, was a lot worse.

So, onto the interesting part: she's played the same six numbers in Tattslotto since 1988!

What do you do when someone has played the same numbers for 21 years? The silly answer is to pick up those damn numbers and keep playing them. The intelligent and correct answer is that every draw is mutually exclusive so it doesn't matter if you keep playing the same numbers or pick a random set of six numbers every game in the future.

My personal answer is to keep playing those numbers, just for my own amusement.

It of course occured to me that legally there has to be some historical Tattslotto draw data laying around, and then secondly that I know for a fact she misses the odd draw here and there. The question started to niggle me, "I wonder if she has ever won and not known it?" - it must happen now and again, right?

I dug around on the Tattersalss website and I found all Oz Lotto draws since draw 101 in 1981

Then I wrote me a dead-simple and lazy Python script to trawl through that crap checking her numbers against all the draws to see if she's ever won.

mynums = ['7','11','24','41','10','45']



for line in open('tatts.txt','r').readlines():

    nums = line.split(",")

    win = 0

    for mynum in mynums:

        win = win + nums.count(mynum)

    if win > 3:

        print win,":",nums

What's the result? She would have won Division 4 four times and Division 5 twice - a total sum of around $150 max.

She would have won in the following draws:

22 May 1982
26 Feb 1983
13 May 1989
11 May 1991
23 Sep 1995

It amuses me the most that she hasn't won with those numbers since 1995. Also, the first two wins can basically be discounted on her account that she didn't start playing until 1988.

Anyway, I thought it was an interesting exercise. Feel free to replicate for anyone that you know and post results.

Hehe, they aren't the numbers ;-)

I just asked my gf what her fave 6 numbers are and she would have at least won Division 3 once in 1989 for about $800-$900 win.

How much does it cost to enter every lotto since 1988?

Thats actually pretty cool pinky nice going. Now if you could just tell me what numbers were going to win next Saturday we'd be all good. :)

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You really expect anything else?

Or predict the future.

Or offer some remote kind of social utility.

You ever see those couples at the roullette wheel at the casino ?
Writing down all the number patterns etc.. trying to predict the next number.
haha

The old folks put in lotto religously
i dont think theyve ever won more than $50 (or maybe they have -_-)

My mom is always getting scratchys and she often wins.
I think scratchies are the best odds of all that gambling stuff.

I hope he didn't sell his Yaught on eBay, nobody would be able to find it.

my company just took over tattsloto and golden casket.

Which company.. Tatts group?

How much does it cost to enter every lotto since 1988?

Thousands and thousands.

Gambling is a tax for people who can't do maths.

Me and a mate have been playing the same numbers every week since 1999.

Won a grand total of $380 so far.

Costs us $3.20 a week or thereabouts, so we're not that far behind!

faceman obviously you dont know how to play roulette

those people writing down the numbers know every number position on the wheel

the dealers that spin that wheel and put in the ball do that all day every day for years.. you know what happens when that happens? yes they spin the wheel and place the ball the same way over and over

if you watch a dealer spin and see where the last number was you can predict where the ball lands within usually 5 a side of the predicted number

the pros then bet on single numbers 5 aside of the predected result

if you know what our doing you can win from this

it depends alot on the dealer though dealers who do it are called repeaters and they call how many numbers aside of the result there 'landing strip' and this is a signiture of the dealers skill

alot of places ban tipping because of this.. if you find a skilled dealer and you can tip them they will slow the wheel down and become very accurate with the landing strip

haha gambling itt

section spinners or "repeaters" are just the product of a random process. a lot of people lose a lot of money playing roulette imagining that a dealer is seriously able to land the ball in a certain section.

It's the equivalent of me saying that I can kick a football from halfway and have the part of the ball where you put the needle in land exactly on the tryline.

Theres 38 numbers ona roulete wheel right?

37. no 00 in oz.

Ive made alot of money on roulette, 2 methods. 1 is just doubling up on an outside bet, and hopping you dont get massive runs. I've had like 14blacks in a row that hurt my bank roll.

I know that every spin is a 49:50 of red / black, but theres gotta be some maths in there being more than 10 outsides in a row?

also a good (read most) croupiers can land the ball pretty much where ever they want

I call bulls***, show me a video or some proof, that would be damm near imposible to do consistenly.

Also, the minimum and maximum bets on a table pretty much stop all the double down bets from working, if you keep doubling you hit the maximum bet after 5 or 6 rounds, so run on the other colour will always kill you. Of course, you could get lucky and keep hitting your colour before the 6th bet, but thats all it is, luck.

I call bulls***

paveways mrs is a former croupier and she guarantees it can be done
if not the exact number then a specific region on the wheel relative to where the least amount of beds are on the table

question's already been asked ara, and it'd probably be a few thousand dollars.

thats how ive ever made money at the casino as superform mentions but also lost a crapload as I'd get too pissed, this was a fun table

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not just that but as you can see 11 came up a few times so you may guess which number I was betting on :)

to pickup the older women

I picked up the bar girl once at Crown :-) Kudos to me. I was 18, she was 23. I thought I was top s***, but unfortunately hindsight dulls reality considerably, haha.

bet on 2 spins being the same colour and only bet on that second spin

this will also prolong your time at the table as your not betting on every hand..

to lose it needs to go black red how ever many times you want to double up

:)

so if it spins black i bet the next spin black.. now i wait till it goes red and i bet the next spin red if it loses and goes black then my next bet is black

so in a tre that looks like this

black
red
red <-- win bet 5
red
red
black
red <-- loose bet 5
black
red <-- loose bet 10
red <-- win bet 20
red
black
black <-- win bet 5
black
red
black <-- loose bet 5
red
red <-- win bet 10


which looks random but my system wins

if you look at the 2 trees on infidels pic you will see my system will win on both of those tables.. its also a good way of being able to walk around playing 3-4 tables

give it a crack

Sorry, I don't see how you have increased your chances of winning. How is this any different from saying, "I'm going to bet every second spin is black."

last edited by BillyHardball at 19:58:00 16/Mar/09

LOL@people who think they have a 'system'.

+2

i honestly can't see a reason to go to a casino except to launder money, seriously, is there a point?

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1664 - 380 = a s*** lod of beer and several footymatches...

True, but we expect to win eventually!

This thread makes me want to go blow some money on blackjack.

True, but we expect to win eventually!

That's the problem - increasing the number of times you gamble doesn't increase the chances you'll win :p