Socialy we are expected to treat women as our equals and not to demene there inteligence, morals etc.
It has come to thought recently that while we are vastly different in personalities men seem to be a superiour sex. Most great thinkers, artists, architects, philosiphers (anything with the need of an advanced thought or skill) have been men (majority not all men). Do you think men and women are equal, and if so should we treat women better, worse, or the same as men? - Women have a habbit to b**** alot... |
history has been dominated by males because equal opportunities havnt always been present, i think you will see an even spread of intellegent men and women in the future.
duh. |
Women have breats and brains, while men have muscles and knowledge
Sometimes you get a good looking chick, who has some muscles in the right places, breasts, and a good head on her shoulders. Sometimes you get a good looking guy, with a nice body, nice whatever, and knows alot of the right stuff. Everyone has it, it just depends who chooses to use it. |
ok i beleive that we are all equal... but woman are different, hence why we treat them different
eg. guys dnt hit girls etc.. although sometimes they do deserve a bashing, they dont get it because they are different.... i dunno how it works its rigged |
Its all about evolution. Men have evolved to be good at certain rolls and so have women. Thats why the brains of males differ to that of females, generally speaking. So not one is better than the other, but women tend to be better multi-taskers and men are better at focusing on a single task. Did you know men can throw objects further than women because they instinctively lock their wrists when they throw, whereas women do not (again, generally)?
|
without going off on too much of an arts student rant, the reason most great thinkers/artists/scientists ect.. have been men is largely due to the patriarchal nature of our society. Only recently have women -really- had the freedom to persue intellectual/creative/academic avenues. I agree that in the future there will be a much more even spread of human achievement across the 2 sexes. ...and breasts rule too |
everyone has brains, its what you do with them. Some are more gifted than others, men and female alike
|
Femininity and Masculinity have different properties, obviously, and with that comes different skills but not always mutually exclusivity in these properties.
We don't treat the different sexes the same way, not that we should, sometimes it's frustrating though when chicks can get away with stuff guys can't, but that's life I guess. |
We're all equal, but the world hasn't allowed women in the past and even nowadays to achieve to their fullest.
|
Men and women aren't equal.
Both sexes have different traits, hormones and appendages. it is PROVEN that a man is stronger than a woman, just as it's proven that men are better at Maths than women, that's not to say the all women are stupid at maths and all men are smart at it. Women are better at language and arts, men are better at logics. I'm a strange one, I suck at maths, rock at english, suck at art, rock at science :D |
If there is anything I have observed is that girls get a lot of stuff easier than guys, not the other way around. So I don't know why people are always going on about female opression and glass ceilings and a male dominated social world, because in my world that just doesn't happen. In my reality, having breasts is power and influence, and having a penis is like being a dirty hobo off the street. In social settings, in the work force, even in a god damn chat room pretending to be a woman automatically makes you more popular and respected.
rock at science heh - read that aloud |
We're all equal, but the world hasn't allowed men in the past and even nowadays to achieve to their fullest.
|
In social settings, in the work force, even in a god damn chat room pretending to be a woman automatically makes you more popular and respected. I HOPE you aren't speaking from experience. :D |
girls get a lot of stuff easier than guys Yeah, but it's more the employment opps and the money. Men get (or used to get) more money than women for doing the same job. And let's not talk about periods, birth control and sitting on a cold toilet at 3am in the middle of winter because your bladder is so small and it's so cold that you have to pee more frequently |
I think you're kidding about the employment oppurtunities, girls get jobs without resume, or skills, or anything. They're girls, thus they get employed no matter what. Guys need to have 5 years experience, 2 uni degrees, and a whole bunch of other s*** just to get an interview.
I've observed this too many times. |
but girls stay as the receptionist.
There used to be more promotions given to men then women. The only reason why women are now getting promoted is because after the year 20XX (i forget the year) there must be X% of women in managerial positions. |
You know what i think? i think human kind can suck my fairly balls. we are as dumb as a horny bunnie rabbit.
|
nice whatever don't lie, you know :D |
Yeah Grosby I guess I only have s***** part-time jobs to go on. All the girls I know get a part-time job as soon as they decide they'd like one, whereas guys often have to try for ages and many times before anything happens.
|
yes i know exactly what thats like.
|
although sometimes they do deserve a bashingWTF? , even in a god damn chat room pretending to be a woman automatically makes you more popular and respected.No, that's just a bunch of horny geeks thinking "OMFG MAEN A G1RL!$@!#%". 80% of internet users are male... 30% of those pretend to be female (for whatever reason). |
I think you're kidding about the employment oppurtunities, girls get jobs without resume, or skills, or anything. They're girls, thus they get employed no matter what. Guys need to have 5 years experience, 2 uni degrees, and a whole bunch of other s*** just to get an interview. If that was true I'd have a kickass job by now. I have been looking for a decent part-time job for 2 years and all I've landed so far is one at a convenience store. Go figure. |
whereas guys often have to try for ages and many times before anything happens. Of course look at the kind of work that they normaly apply for (girls that is) when they start apply for it. Checkout chick, cashier, waiteress, customer service, all that jazz. Chicks sell more items to dumb guys who think that because the girl is talking to them, it obviously means that they want to root them. |
No two people are equal. Equality would be terrible. Even striving for equality can be a silly thing to do. Thankfully we will never live in a world full of equals.
Edit: You'd have to be an idiot to think that any two people are equal. Completely equal in what way again? |
Men and women are not maths either ;)
|
how can women be equal, when they were created from the bottom rib of man? well that's what it says in the bible anyway.
when i was upset about something a while ago, a black woman came up to me and said "you have nothing to worry about, you are living in a white mans world" i have never forgotten that. |
well maybe employers are geeks that think "OMFG MAEN A G1RL!$@!#%".
|
its all just a load of bulls*** and women doing what they do best....
|
i think women need to respect the fact that (most) men don't hit them and wouldn't think of it.
cause if that moral didn't exit, i bet they wish it did :) |
personally I don't hit *anyone* you f*****g redneck chuck norris wannabes
|
If women seek equality with men, they lack ambition.
|
If women seek equality with men, they lack ambition. Yeah, they should be seeking a husband and a family. |
Haha, all you guys preferring men. If you haven't noticed yet, girls are different and in nice ways too :)
You could make all sorts of comparisons like athletic performances, math tests (yeah like to see where you got your figures from about that anyway), whatever - but why are you even making this comparison? What's your point? |
Yeh i suppose, we like men that have a will of their own. Especially if it's made out in our name.
|
(just asking)
If you don't support the notion of equality then what do you support? |
WHO are you asking? I'm not in this debate, i'm just ruffling feathers :)
|
boys have a penis
girls have a vagina |
I have seen some disturbing pornography which will suggest that is not always the case.
|
dunno, but as soon as a girl gets on the internet all the hot sweatty geeks run after her and paw at her and ask her to marry them. oh hi look I'm a geek, no one else likes me, maybe coz ur a girl on the net ur a geek 2. asl? hi2u omg keke olol pathetic.
girls can all f*** off and die, so can guys. people in general can all f*** off & die. I can't wait to be off this stupid planet. |
Uhuh.
You should probably talk to someone about that. |
lol jim and rofl teen...
as for the discussion - i think on the whole everyone is different, but specifically I don't think men or women are smarter, but men certainly do possess more athletic ability and strength etc. and just for the record i personally think women have a distinct talent for irrational thought :P |
I think they are completely equal... Nature made us that way.
You put a man and a woman on an island and tell them to fend for themselves. What will happen? The fella will probably got out hunting and catch very little, the woman will probably find alternative sources of food (like muscles etc..). Its in the hormones apparently, woman natually gather, men naturally hunt. |
whoopass, put the gun down.
jesus loves you. |
If women seek equality with men, they lack ambition. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha *pause for breath* aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha seriously.. i know girls that would cut off your balls for even THINKING that :) |
someone once mentioned to me
sexism = excuse used because a woman feels she could have achieved more if she was a man, regardless of the fact that the brain matter, or strength, or willpower may be lacking reverse sexism = what men speak about when they can't get laid. now for something (maybe?) thoughtful. both sexes have their natural abilities, its been studied many times blah blah blah, yes, society has been male driven a lot in the past, though with the opportunities coming through you'll find the people that want to achieve in the future will achieve and be noted in history, regardless of sex. |
women are good at having babies and stuff :P
|
Not all women, f*** if i had one, i wouldn't know what to do with it.
Can i give it back? |
The only thing a man is good at is being a man.
The only thing a woman is good at is being a woman. A man cannot be a better man then a woman A woman cannot be a better woman then a man Because a man is a man and a woman is a woman and they're both good at what they do and that's what makes us humans. Understand ? |
well um.. yeah that too.. kinda thing...
but what i was meaning to say was: "a man can't be the better at being a man then to a woman being the better being a woman more than being a man" understand ? |
wtf am i sayin could anyone exaplin to me please =/
|
hihi
Not one of you mentioned equality in a relationship. T.T The true measure of equality must begin with the respect shown in the family unit. Children are always watching, like all forms of racism and bigotry the stereotyped casting of women as "the weaker sex" is a learned behaviour. The demeaning roles that women are often given in the entertainment/media and the unrealistic standards of perfection and beauty continue to rob women of their self esteem and self worth. These types of things stand in the way of true equality. Women are the way they are today because men have created the world to suit themselves. Man created religion in his own image and man was the centre of that religion. Man created society in his own image and he remains the centre of that society. Equality is still a long way off. |
i had a friend that kept going on about how males were more "chaotic" than females, due to the fact that they had different chromosomes, whereas females were more "stable" due to having the two of the same chromosome. this was after he'd read a book discussing such things.
fact or not, it's an interesting theory. |
Complete equality is the pits. I agree. In fact there's a big difference between equality and fairness. I'd perfer fairness to equality. :P (hell, if it all were equal, either men would get 12 weeks Paternity instead of 1 week, or women would get 1 week Maternity instead of 12) |
Now because I read one post, then post, then I read another..
males were more "chaotic" than females, due to the fact that they had different chromosomes It's also proven that a male will look at the end result. "Go to pub. Pick up Chick" however women look at how to get there "Go to pub, make eye contact with a few blokes. Don't look so desperate...." then women will think of the consequence, whereas most men will not think of that until just before it occurs. |
ggb: If you state that the media portray women with unrealistic standards, then have you picked up a womens magazine lately and looked at the advertising? It happens in both camps, male or female, and is perpetrated by both camps. Its marketing/advertising at its best.
|
gawd do not even get me started on this subject...:)we r all equal nuff said
|
i agree with WhoopAss i wanna get the f*** away from here to
ALIENS COME TO ME!!!!!!! |
I'm your average female. There is no way i can do hard labour, run around in the army lugging around heavy equipment all day. I am simply not strong enough. I also couldn't fight fires or lift up injured people.
But if there are any females that can and *want* to do all those jobs that are typically male dominated. It should be FAIR to let anyone go though the testing and trails of getting there. It shouldn't matter what sex you are. but it does. It's unrealistic to think that men and women can do all the same jobs. |
Exactly Balli. Men are more suited for some roles and women for others. Men are *usually* stronger and more suited for hard labour jobs (eg. building, soldier) whereas women are *usually* more caring and compassionate (eg. nurse).
I am not saying that men and women are the only people that can do those jobs, as I am sure there are excellent male nurses and women soldiers, but that is just typically. |
SHRAPSE!@!@!
we may not be able to do physical things like males but id like too see them give birth!!!it all evens out in the end |
Yea im with trog. Why dont you make a thread "does god exist" or "are gay people wrong" or some other contriversial topic that you know lots of people are going to have different views on. Completly stupid
|
If i could I'd like to be a hot chicky babe.
|
it is true that giving women equal rights has resulted in more fairness. but i do beleive it has resulted in society changing for the worse.
instead of having lots of single housewivish women to choose from, men now have to put up with the s*** laid down by b****** who think they dont need men, but rather need a university degree and a 60k job! this has gotten in the way of traditional family values. paving the way for a generation of kids with personality disorders, lack of father figures, and no stable family to rely on. |
men and women can never be equal
most relationships are built on the foundation of superiority and inferiority, from both sexes. dont make me go into it any further |
It's also proven that a male will look at the end result. "Go to pub. Pick up Chick" however women look at how to get there "Go to pub, make eye contact with a few blokes. Don't look so desperate...." then women will think of the consequence, whereas most men will not think of that until just before it occurs.really? cool, i'm abnormal (i can't escape thinking about consequences, i don't do much as a "consequence" haha). |
As someone said before how do you define equal. i recon equal means that if a man and a woman go for the same job the employer should look past the sex of the employee and onto what matters the skills. but sadly it is not like that. this is just for employment, but it depends on the job that is being offered, what happens if a man wants to be a receptionist, hmmm. well the employer would porbably go no and not take another look at it.
but somepeople are right we are all equal, but because of the way society has been for the last couple of decades it doesn't seem that way. yes more men are arcitects and builders but that is because if a woman tried to be one they would be laughed out of the course. but now that some people (i say some people because there are still people out there that believe men are beter than women and vise versa) recon that we are equal the field even now has started to even out. take it for instance where i work it is fairly even but when i talk to the staff the majority of girls are studying it and programing and i only know 3 out of 15 males that are doing it the rest i realy can't remmeber. cycosis relations ships are not built on dominance and weekness relations ships happen because there are 2 people maybe more if you are lucky that may or mey not have something in common. they feel as if they have some thing to share with each other. if that is what you think relations ships are based on you really have no idea then. well that is enough but we are all equal and if you don't think that then you are f*****g stupid. ttt-hats all folks |
F***, i leave these forums for 3 weeks, i come back and there's a heap of females posting.
Yehaa! |
If chicks wanna be equal then they should pay for their own s*** :P
|
both women and men are equal in teen's eyes because they both can be raped
|
In the words of Lush:
Here we go, I'm hanging out in Camden I don't think it contributes to the discussion, I've always liked that song is all. (I'll go now, this seems like the guys-with-no-chicks thread) |
Muahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Verticalseafoodtaco
|
not sure if you are refering to me necra but i am not a chick i just recon chicks and dudes are equal
|
If any sex is the superiour I'd say the female, as genetically they are safer and have less chance of borked genes thanks to their double X (mutations in one X can be offset by the other X). While males with a borked Y chromo dont have any backup save whatever the X can do, this is why overall males tend to have more genetic problems then female. Also if the body defaults to a female form if it is missing a 2nd X or Y chromo.
Ever thought that the unequal oppertunities presented to females made it much harder for them to accomplish such things? Women are just as capable as men and vice versa, there would be certain roles that would give one sex a better advantage to then the other, however these are small and can be overcome with a bit of practice. Also, back in the Hunter/Gather days it is being found that the woman gathered far more food then the men could hunt, so it was the women who provided the bulk meals with berries, nutts and fruits while the males provided large amounts of food that perashed within a couple of days... |
cycosis relations ships are not built on dominance and weekness relations ships happen because there are 2 people maybe more if you are lucky that may or mey not have something in common. they feel as if they have some thing to share with each other. bold = the part im right yes something they can share with each other, something that the other person doesnt have. hence, in the most basic forms, superiority of for example intelligence, and inferiority of physical appearance. this, while not limited to, explains the freak phenomena of an ugly guy and a hot chick. they exist in the relationship because the chick is attracted to the guys abilities that she DOESNT have. ie. this may be intelligence, character, charisma etc. the guy is attracted to the girl because she is superior to him in the physical sense. thus what occurs is... SHE feels SMARTER because he is smarter HE feels sexier because she is sexier. get it? its just an example, really, dont make me type out an essay. it doesnt just apply to 'love' relationships, but also normal friendships. it isnt a clear rule of relationships, but it is a common factor. |
Chicks sell more items to dumb guys who think that because the girl is talking to them, it obviously means that they want to root them.f*** f*** damn |
(I'll go now, this seems like the guys-with-no-chicks thread) no, please stay Mr. Pitt and tell us what it is like to be the sexiest man in the world! |
Yea im with trog. Why dont you make a thread "does god exist" or "are gay people wrong" or some other contriversial topic that you know lots of people are going to have different views on. Completly stupid Isnt the point of a public forum to dicuss ideas and thoughts? A little more valid than "omg look at this pic of a dog taking a piss" or look at my desktop.... |
Men have penii
Women have vagina and an innie <> outty So are they the same... no ... |
of course they are not equal otherwise we wouldnt be having this discussion yes ?
|