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NoLogic
Toowoomba, Queensland
482 posts
This announcement due to take place today at 2pm..

here


last 5 to test various rollout techniques announced in march -

Part of the Melbourne suburb of Brunswick (2,600 premises).

Parts of Townsville suburbs Aitkenvale and Mudingburra (3,100 premises).

Minnamurra and Kiama Downs on the NSW south coast (2,600 premises).

An area west of Armidale in regional NSW, including the University of New England (2,900 premises)

South Australian rural community Willunga (less than 1,000 premises



Cmon Toowoomba!!!

12:12pm 08/07/10 Permalink
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FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
2371 posts
how about putting adsl2 in more than 3 GC exchanges first you slack c****.
12:17pm 08/07/10 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3049 posts

heh. what does that have to do with the nbn apart from they are both internet delivery methods?

go hassle your isp.
12:19pm 08/07/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
7723 posts
what sucks about this is, as someone who is in a serviced adsl2+ zone - despite receiving no more than 4-5mbit tops, we will be some of the last to see FTT[N|P|H]
12:34pm 08/07/10 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3050 posts

well, there always has to be someone at the end.

what is your solution?
12:54pm 08/07/10 Permalink
neffo
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
16996 posts
heh. what does that have to do with the nbn apart from they are both internet delivery methods?


Considering the plan is for Telstra to turn off the copper network and move everything to the NBN, quite a bit. I can't see any further spending on ADSL infrastructure.
12:58pm 08/07/10 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
15738 posts
Exactly, this NBN is a disincentive to further investment by any other ISP.
01:03pm 08/07/10 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3051 posts

Exactly, but either way it has nothing to do with NBNco and everything to do with his current ISP chosing not to invest in further infrastucture.
01:11pm 08/07/10 Permalink
`ViPER`
Brisbane, Queensland
2513 posts
Exactly, this NBN is a disincentive to further investment by any other ISP.


FYI, the NBN is a lastmile alternative to copper, an ISP is alot more than the last mile, and if the NBN means that the ISP's can concentrate on better things like faster/cheaper international bandwidth and value-add services like proper IPTV, game servers, content mirrors etc, than thats a good thing.

At the moment we can have 3 0r 4 ISPS having duplicate ADSL2 services in one exchange, and down the road, no alternative other than telstra hardware.
01:11pm 08/07/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
7727 posts
what is your solution?


largest uptake areas first?

ie, if 5000 homes will connect at one POP and 1000 will connect at another POP in the sticks, doesn't it make more sense both financially and from a happy-customer point of view to give it to the 5000 people first
01:15pm 08/07/10 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3052 posts

heh. who is to say the 99% of the 5000 who are already getting 5mbits aren't already happy?

where as the 50% 1000 stuck on pairgains or no dsl are unhappy about it and nbn will make them smile?
01:22pm 08/07/10 Permalink
`ViPER`
Brisbane, Queensland
2514 posts
heh. who is to say the 99% of the 5000 who are already getting 5mbits aren't already happy?

where as the 50% 1000 stuck on pairgains or no dsl are unhappy about it and nbn will make them smile?


Bingo, give this man the non-existent prize.
01:24pm 08/07/10 Permalink
NoLogic
Toowoomba, Queensland
485 posts
Bingo, give this man the non-existent prize.


I started the thread, therefore hold the prizes .. here ..


http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/famsar/Cooke.jpg
01:31pm 08/07/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
7728 posts
there are plenty of people who are very close to ADSL2+ areas that are in fact stuck on RIM/Pair gain
in some cases you might be able to get adsl2+ but your neighbours across the road can't get anything because of pair gain

I just don't see why you wouldn't roll it out to areas where the populous is more dense first
country folk get free (install) satellite as it is, there are city folk who can't get speeds that farmers can get
01:31pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
6390 posts
I just don't see why you wouldn't roll it out to areas where the populous is more dense first

Well they are 'test' sites, so you want to spread it wide (over the country) but not have too many people using it to make it easier to diagnose and deal with faults without affecting a lot of people.

Their roll-out strategy is sound IMO. Pity their prior planning and planning transparency hasn't been.
01:38pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
7071 posts
I don't see why they don't roll it uot at my house first. There is a compelling and logical argument for this.
01:43pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
1953 posts
^ My house next please. 100Mbits would be nice. ISP Level filter optional. Thank you Mr Conroy.
02:00pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
6391 posts
They could roll it out next to my house times ten, I still won't vote Labor.
02:08pm 08/07/10 Permalink
MatchFixah
Brisbane, Queensland
3694 posts
I have 6 pc's/laptops/phones/xboxs stuck using the one adsl1 line.

I deserve to be rolled out first.
02:19pm 08/07/10 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
500 posts
my connection sucks....

http://www.speedtest.net/result/871633524.png

atm...

not like some though....
02:25pm 08/07/10 Permalink
reso
I can't read
Brisbane, Queensland
5093 posts
come on wooooooooooooodridge
02:38pm 08/07/10 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
31378 posts
I just don't see why you wouldn't roll it out to areas where the populous is more dense first
because the NBN isn't about logic, its about equality, or something
02:51pm 08/07/10 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
1951 posts
because the NBN isn't about logic, its about equality,

In that case places without ADSL2 should get the NBN first. The ones left behind in adsl1 land should come first.
02:53pm 08/07/10 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3054 posts
NoLogic wins a cookie!

Victoria - Bacchus Marsh, South Morang (Melbourne);
Queensland - Brisbane (inner north), Springfield Lakes, Toowoomba;
NSW - Riverstone (western Sydney), Coffs Harbour;
South Australia - Modbury, Prospect;
Western Australia - Victoria Park (Perth), Geraldton, Mandurah;
Northern Territory - Casuarina; and
ACT - Gungahlin


from here.
03:03pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
15182 posts
Toowoomba! wtf
03:11pm 08/07/10 Permalink
NoLogic
Toowoomba, Queensland
488 posts
WOOOOT!!!! Now gotta just hope it's my area in Toowoomba
03:25pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Ickus
Perth, Western Australia
18 posts

Western Australia - Victoria Park (Perth), Geraldton, Mandurah;
">here.


Hmm... these are along the lines of being logical! Where is the real NBN Co and their apparent random selection method?

Vic Park - Has already been partially built by Bright Communications in partnership with Western Power a few years back.
Geraldton - Being connected up by the recent government funded regional connectivity projects
Mandurah - Telstra only exchanges which all have known backhaul issues
03:39pm 08/07/10 Permalink
mooby
Brisbane, Queensland
5562 posts
so are they phycicaly cabling between those locations?
03:52pm 08/07/10 Permalink
trillion
Brisbane, Queensland
1359 posts
theres a map of the sites being covered here

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9836/nbncobrisbanenorthside.th.png

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2791/toownbncojuly.th.jpg





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tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
7729 posts
Queensland - Brisbane (inner north),


/eats hat
03:56pm 08/07/10 Permalink
`ViPER`
Brisbane, Queensland
2516 posts
so are they phycicaly cabling between those locations?


HUH???

of course they wouldnt run a new cable just between those spots, they most likely use existing fibre backhaul to a regional/state pop.

Specialy now that telstras onboard, im pretty sure telstra would have fibre going to 90% if not all exchanes by now.
03:57pm 08/07/10 Permalink
neffo
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
17000 posts
FYI, the NBN is a lastmile alternative to copper, an ISP is alot more than the last mile


Yes but his point was the lack of a last mile. As awesome as the tech might before the NBN when its finished it a long way from that. He would have been happier to have ADSL2 tomorrow rather than FTTP in 5 years time.
04:03pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
5125 posts
Well, he's already been waiting four years for ADSL2+. No ISP has done the necessary upgrades. Why would tomorrow be any different?
04:06pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Raider
Brisbane, Queensland
3084 posts
you cannot b**** at all jim, on ADSL2+

http://www.speedtest.net/result/872662686.png
04:16pm 08/07/10 Permalink
mongie
Brisbane, Queensland
7274 posts
Wow, start looking for real estate in near the airport (or Springfield Lakes) :D
04:50pm 08/07/10 Permalink
mongie
Brisbane, Queensland
7275 posts
FYI, the NBN is a lastmile alternative to copper, an ISP is alot more than the last mile


What?

We're getting FTTP... not FTTN.
04:52pm 08/07/10 Permalink
iTOM
Brisbane, Queensland
365 posts
im in it, b******!
04:56pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
1955 posts
So, I'm wondering what happens to people that have the NBN already rolled out to them if Tony Abbot & crew win the federal election and scrap the project?
05:16pm 08/07/10 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
6752 posts
I just don't see why you wouldn't roll it out to areas where the populous is more dense first
  They are. We call the dense bogans, and they are getting it first!
05:32pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Insom
Brisbane, Queensland
3473 posts
theres a map of the sites being covered here

hm, boundary starts off good, following the river but then f**** off down breaky creek, missing most of the inner suburbs

heh doh
07:35pm 08/07/10 Permalink
Fireblood
Brisbane, Queensland
9548 posts
Doh, missed my area :(
08:41pm 08/07/10 Permalink
taggs
4298 posts
looks like my place is in that area. how long is this clusterf*** supposed to take to roll out?
12:31am 11/07/10 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
2375 posts
Sigh.
12:38am 11/07/10 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
5341 posts
My house is inside that blurry red line. Is there an image that has a more clearly defined boundary?
12:54am 11/07/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
7778 posts
I'm rolling inside the red line too, I reckon the red line probably takes a logical path
ie, south of the gateway motorway, probably east of gympie road or maybe webster road etc


bring on the FTTH
12:00pm 11/07/10 Permalink
DarkTele
Gold Coast, Queensland
166 posts
Meh stop b****ing look at this poop
http://www.speedtest.net/result/875783530.png



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tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
7785 posts
you dont need fast internet when all you do is smoke weed and surf all day
03:16pm 11/07/10 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
3435 posts
what with newman wanting our fibre going through the sewers.... WTF??
09:36am 12/07/10 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
12499 posts
I'm rolling inside the red line too


rofs what

bracken ridge isn't even on that map
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tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
7788 posts
yeah its a s*** idea
09:50am 12/07/10 Permalink
blahnana
Brisbane, Queensland
485 posts
im in it, b******!
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